April 17 - 23, 2005

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Supreme Court Arguments Are a Career Highlight

For an argument before the U.S. Supreme Court, there's the exhilaration of certiorari followed by the endless preparation, then the nervous energy in the presentation, and finally the anticipation of a decision, according to speakers at the American Constitution Society (ACS) program "A Chance of a Life Time: Arguing Before the U.S. Supreme Court."

The John Marshall chapter of ACS welcomed Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan to join Professors Michael Seng, Glenn Schwartz and F. Willis Caruso for an April 4 discussion of what happens when you argue before the court.

Each speaker agreed that the preparation is the most important part of the attorney's work.

"You should know every single case" that is cited in your brief, because "you want to be able to answer every question asked of you," Madigan said. She argued a 4th amendment case involving a traffic stop that ended in a drug arrest after a canine unit found drugs in the car. In preparation for the case, Madigan even spent time with the Illinois State Police to learn how dogs are trained.

"You never know what questions will be asked. The best thing is to be in the case from the beginning" so you can draw on all the facts, said Caruso. He was given the opportunity to re-brief his fair housing case after the court had heard three arguments on fair housing cases and reversed all three just weeks after accepting his case.

Caruso went up against an attorney who tried to tell the court the actions by realtors were "puffing." The strategy didn't work for at least one justice who told him that what really was happening was lying about the effects of the realtors' actions.

Schwartz argued a tax case. He spent the summer preparing the brief trying to get to the finer points of the argument. Although Schwartz recognized that the court rarely sides with the petitioners in tax law cases, he said arguing before the court "was a privilege."

The attorneys said they all reviewed past court decisions to learn how the justices had ruled on similar cases, but even then there's no guarantee that you will find a friend in the court. Seng lost his 1971 case, Kirby v. Illinois, on a 5-4 vote. The court would have been more friendly to him, Seng believes, if Justice William Renquist hadn't just been appointed to the bench by President Richard Nixon.

Madigan said she thought she would have a majority on the court, and she prepared her argument to persuade that majority. As soon as questioning began, Madigan said "you're on the firing line for the whole 20 to 30 minutes. I got maybe two-and-a-half sentences out before the questions started. There are questions you truly can't prepare for. You can't finesse the question. You have to answer it. The justices are not a group of people you can bamboozle whatsoever."

Preparation for court argument also includes moots and attendance at Supreme Court arguments. The attorneys all agreed their demeanor before the court was as important as the argument. Proper attire is essential, and common courtesies are expected.

There is no direct route to a U.S. Supreme Court argument. Although Madigan says her office will send several cases a year to the court for review, not all are accepted. Caruso argued his case while working for a not-for-profit, and Schwartz got his case through a friend in the Washington, D.C. bar.

American Constitution Society welcomed Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan (second from right, front row) as a guest speaker for its program on arguing before the U.S. Supreme Court. Joining her are (front row, from left) presenter Professor Michael Seng; Professor Gerald Berendt; and Rina Infelise, and (back row, from left)Mario Sullivan; Michael Walsh; presenter Professor Glenn Schwartz; Vice Dean John Corkery, and Associate Dean Rory Smith.

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Children's Law Society Educates John Marshall Community about Abuse in America

The Children's Law Society at John Marshall recently presented "Hands on Abuse," which consisted of a lobby visual display, available statistics on abuse in America, volunteer information, and a ribbon sale. Student members who volunteered to help with the presentation were (standing, from left) Kelly Preston, Laura Presto, Kristin Kurczewski, and (seated, from left) Sarah Simonson and Blair Wheat.

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Dean's Activity

Dean Patricia Mell

Activities

On Thursday, May 12, she will be a panelist for the segment "Overcoming Obstacles Against Women in Society and the Workplace" at the 6th annual Women Everywhere: Partners in Service Project for young women in high schools throughout the Chicago area. The program is co-sponsored by the Illinois State Bar Association Committee on Women and the Law, the Women's Bar Association of Illinois, the Black Women Lawyers Association of Greater Chicago, the Chicago Bar Association Alliance for Women, the DuPage Association of Women Lawyers, the Hispanic Lawyers Association of Illinois and the Hadassah Attorneys Council.

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Faculty Activity and Publications

Professor Celeste Hammond

Director, Center for Real Estate Law

Activities

She will present her paper, "Predatory Lending: A Legal Definition and Update," at the annual meeting of the American Real Estate Society (ARES) in Santa Fe on April 15, 2005. ARES is an organization of academics and scholars involved in teaching commercial real estate and related courses in the nation's business schools. While there, she will also report on the event for the Association of American Law Schools, Real Estate Transactions Section, that wants to promote more interaction between law school and business school professors in the field of real estate transactions. A summary will be published for AALS members in the newsletter for the Section.

Professor Mark E. Wojcik

Activities

He served as a panelist on "LGBT's in the 2004 Election" on April 8, 2005 at the 63rd Annual Meeting of the Midwest Political Science Association in Chicago, Illinois.  The other panelists were Professors Kenneth Sherrill of Hunter College, City University of New York; Ellen Anderson of Indiana University and Purdue University Indianapolis; Jeffrey Edwards of Roosevelt University; Steven Haeberle of the University of Alabama at Birmingham; Douglas Strand of the University of California at Berkeley; and Dorian T. Warren of the University of Chicago.

He also served as a discussant on "New Approaches to International Law and Organization" on April 9, 2005 at the Midwest Political Science Association Annual Meeting.  He discussed international law theories of "hard law" and "soft law" put forth by Patrick Cottrell and David M. Trubeck of the University of Wisconsin, revisions to keeping track of international conflicts proposed by Lisa M. Danish of the State University of New York at Buffalo, and aspects of democratization in the Turkish context analyzed by Beken Saatciogulu of the University of Virginia.

He conducted a workshop on "Teaching Tips for Quiet Classrooms" on April 11, 2005 for the faculty of the Salmon P. Chase College of Law at Northern Kentucky University in Highland Heights, Kentucky.  The presentation was based on one of his contributions to the book Techniques for Teaching Law.

He spoke on the subject of "Genocide and the International Criminal Court" at North Park University in Chicago on April 12, 2005.

Publications

Mark E. Wojcik, The Illinois Human Rights Act: What the New "Sexual Orientation" Amendment Does (and Does Not) Require, Human Rights, vol. 31, no. 3, at 1 (March 2005).

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Student Activities

April 18

The International Law Society will meet at 5:00 p.m. in room 201.

Phi Alpha Delta will meet at 12:30 p.m. in room 216. Pizza will be served.

April 19

The Black Law Student Association will meet at 4:00 p.m. in room 201.

April 20

The Association of Trial Lawyers will meet at 5:00 p.m. in room 216. Pizza will be served.

April 21

Delta Theta Phi and Phi Alpha Delta are co-sponsoring a mock trial program with the Swift School.

April 22

The Annual Alumni Reception sponsored by the Black Law Student Association will be held at 6:00 p.m. in room 1200.

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Schedule of Events

April 18

  • Deans' Meeting, Courtroom, 12:00 p.m.
  • NCA Team/Faculty Meeting, Room 1200, 12:00 p.m.
  • Academic Affairs Committee Meeting, Room 1105, 1:00 p.m.
  • NCA Team/Students Meeting, Student Lounge, 4:30 p.m.
  • Career Services - Fall Interviewing: What You Need to Know Now, Room 1200A, 5:00 p.m.

April 19

  • NCA Team/JMLS Reception, Room 3East, 4:30 p.m.
  • Domestic and Foreign Patent, Trademark, Trade Secret and Copyright Documentation Course, 6:00 p.m.

April 20

  • JCIL Open House, JCIL Office - Room 605, 12:00 p.m.
  • UIC - Forensic Medicine Program, Courtroom, 1:00 p.m.
  • ATLA Meeting, Room 216, 5:00 p.m.
  • Fire Drill, 7:00 p.m.

April 21

  • HLSA Program, Room 3East, 12:00 p.m.
  • Centers Directors Meeting, Room 428, 12:15 p.m.
  • Tax Law Info Session, Room 1105, 12:30 p.m.
  • Alumni & Development Staff Meeting, Room 403, 2:00 p.m.
  • Increasing Diversity in the Legal Profession - Encouraging Students of Color to Pursue a Law Career, Room 503, 3:30 p.m.
  • NALP Foundation Focus Group, Room 1200B, 4:00 p.m.
  • Illinois Native American Bar Association Meeting, Room 1202, 5:30 p.m.

April 22

  • NALP Foundation Focus Group, Room 1200B, 8:30 a.m.
  • Law Journals Honors Banquet, Room 3East, 5:00 p.m.
  • BLSA Annual Spring Alumni Reception, Room 1200, 6:00 p.m.

April 24

  • Multistate Diagnostic Exam, Room 413, 9:00 a.m.

April 25

  • Deans' Meeting, Courtroom, 12:00 p.m.

April 26

  • Tea Time with the Deans, Student Lounge, 4:30 p.m.
  • Domestic and Foreign Patent, Trademark, Trade Secret and Copyright Documentation Course, 6:00 p.m.

April 27

  • Freedom Award Committee Meeting, Room 1101, 12:00 p.m.

April 28

  • Institutional Advancement Meeting, Room 1101, 10:00 a.m.
  • IP Lunch and Learn, Room 1200A, 11:30 a.m.
  • Dispute Resolution Barrister's Board Meeting, Room 3East, 5:00 p.m.

April 30

  • Classes end

May 1

  • Reading Period Begins
  • SALT Meeting, Room 1200, 8:00 a.m.

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Editor's Note

In the Loop is published by The John Marshall Law School, Chicago, Copyright 2005

Editor: Assistant Dean John M. McNamara; Contributors: Marilyn Thomas, Director, Public Relations and Advertising; Andrea Koklys, Assistant Director, Public Relations and Advertising

All information to be included in In the Loop must be placed in the INTHELOOP folder on the H drive of the law school's computer network by 12 p.m. each Wednesday. When the volume of submissions exceeds the available space in the printed version of In the Loop, additonal material will appear only in the online version of the Newsletter, which can be found on the law school's website at www.jmls.edu.

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